Holton Collegiate Cornet Serial Numbers
-:: Author Message ConnCoprion Heavyweight Member Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 1617 Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: Holton Collegiate worth anything? My dad's parents bought it brand new for him in the early 60's.is it worth anything? Philippians 1:6 LFRoberts5 Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Nov 2002 Posts: 944 Location: St. Louis Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: Is it in good shape? How does it play?
Feb 9, 2008 - I have a 53 Collegiate cornet which is a good student model. You can find serial number lists for pre 1980 horns on Lars Kirmser's Horn. Actual Pictures of the Holton Collegiate Trumpet. A brand new case is included with this horn and a genuine Holton re-silvered. The serial number reads. Holton Serial Number Ranges By Model. Unknown, unknown. Collegiate, unknown, unknown. Holton Serial Number Chart. Serial Number, Year Manufactured.
I love my 1970's Collegiate. Would you like to sell it? Student of the Trumpet! It's not about us.It's about God! Microsoft dynamics rms serial key. Jhatpro Heavyweight Member Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 8891 Location: Chicago area Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: eBay sellers sold eight Holton Collegiates between April 7th and April 21st at an average price of $61.00.
Jim Hatfield 'The weapon should be practiced every day.' Old French swordsman's manual ConnCoprion Heavyweight Member Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 1617 Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: structurally it's in Great shape!
But it definately could use a relaquering. The valves are in great shape.my dad took great care of it.BUT when he was in jr high he dropped it on the edge of the bell.and sadly he took a pair of plyers and straightened it out. (he was afraid that grandpa might find out The funny part is.for being in jr high, armed only with plyers.he did a great job.the bend on the edge of the bell wasn't major at all.in fact he had to show me where he took the plyers.
I'll try to post the serial number tonight. I used it in my jr/sr high days.until I picked my Olds Studio (silver) excellent shape.for 120 dollars.in an old Amish antique store.
Philippians 1:6 Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: Not really worth much. Probably, better to you for sentimental value. The 'Super Collegiate' is another story. Yr fthfl Srvnt, Robt Love animals. Don't eat them.
I miss Genghis Khan. Skootchy Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1658 Location: Naugatuck, CT Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: A little off topic but you guys seem to be knowledgeable about old Holtons. Back in High School (Mid 60's) I almost bought a Holton that had a bell that started out as lacquered brass and down near the seam there was about a 2 inch stretch of silver ending up with a copper bell. I liked the sound it gave but everyone else thought it looked like a carnival so I passed. What was that thing? Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: skootchy wrote: A little off topic but you guys seem to be knowledgeable about old Holtons.
342786 Holton Collegiate Cornet
Back in High School (Mid 60's) I almost bought a Holton that had a bell that started out as lacquered brass and down near the seam there was about a 2 inch stretch of silver ending up with a copper bell. I liked the sound it gave but everyone else thought it looked like a carnival so I passed. What was that thing? As you were still in high-school, clearly, you were not 'ready' for that horn. Yf fthfl Srvnt, Robt Love animals.
Don't eat them. I miss Genghis Khan. Skootchy Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1658 Location: Naugatuck, CT Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: Robert Rowe wrote: As you were still in high-school, clearly, you were not 'ready' for that horn. Yf fthfl Srvnt, Robt Could be, but I do remember that I really liked that horn as soon as I played it and I let myself get talked out of it by someone elses opinion. Lesson learned, that doesn't happen anymore. I have never seen one since, I guess no one has experimented with multi-metal bells since?
Very few horns have made that kind of lasting impression on me. Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:.I was sorta 'implying' that your tenure in high-school was not the 'target market' for a Super-Collegiate. I don't think they marketed (or made) a 'Super-High School'. I was 'messin' wif 'ya. Yr fthfl Srvnt, Robt Love animals.
Don't eat them. I miss Genghis Khan. Skootchy Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1658 Location: Naugatuck, CT Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: Oh.I knew that. Cleanhead77 Veteran Member Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Central Florida Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Super Collegiate Holtons come up on Ebay from time to time, both trumpets and cornets. Regular Collegiates have been produced in many forms over the past 70 years or so - from the old peashooters to the ones made in Japan. My favorite is the model made about 35 years ago with the elongated copper medalion on the tuning slide brace and the standard waterkeys.
Dillon's has one like that for $150.00. They play very well and are suitable for pro work backup if it's not too heavy. I would rate them right up with the Olds Ambassador. So many horns, so little time. I agree - Love Animals, don't eat them. Study888 Veteran Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 354 Location: Darlington,S.C.
Holton Collegiate Cornet
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Holton Collegiate worth anything? Hello Robert Rowe. You mentioned the Holton Super Collegiate was another story. Would you please for us that are not in the know. Tell us about the Super Collegiate and how they play. Quality of model etc.
By not knowing. May have passed over one in a old pawn shop est.
Holton Cornet Serial Number Chart
Could have bought for $20.00. Did buy a L.A. Ambassador trumpet ser#27668. For $20.00 while I was looking. Thanks for any info.
You have to offer. Maj45 Regular Member Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 58 Location: n. Versailles PA Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: I may have owned a Super Collegiate and didn't even know it! I bought it for $70 in about 1975 and played it through Jr. High and high school.
It was relegated to my in-school practice and marching band horn when I got my Bach Strad in 1977. Several years ago, realizing I had no need of two horns, I donated the horn to the music program in the school district my sister taught music in-a not-so-wealthy district in SC. I sure hope the horn is still in use. I was trying to be kind and repay the favor someone had done for me when I started playing by making a horn available at no charge. I may have given away more than I thought! The valve casing was brass, the lead pipe, tuning slide and end of the bell were silver in color, and the rest of the crook and bell were copper color. I honestly don't remember the inscription on the bell.
Perhaps it's best I don't. Bach Strad 43, Schilke 15C4 Blessing XL Flugel, Bach 1-1/2CFL conch shell Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Holton Collegiate worth anything?
Study888 wrote: Hello Robert Rowe. You mentioned the Holton Super Collegiate was another story. Would you please for us that are not in the know.
Tell us about the Super Collegiate and how they play. Quality of model etc. By not knowing. May have passed over one in a old pawn shop est.
Could have bought for $20.00. Did buy a L.A. Ambassador trumpet ser#27668. For $20.00 while I was looking. Thanks for any info. You have to offer. Not sure where to begin.
(?) I might comment that I have no extreme loyalties to any one brand of horn. I have a 'fondness' for a very special 1956 Conn Connstellation 28A, and a 1939 Martin Handcraft Committee. These two horns offer me the opportunity to play in almost any context I encounter, with great aplomb. I'm not a fanatical 'jazz-Bo', a classical / symphonic 'kinda-guy', nor a studio / recording / commercial artist.
Seems as though everyone elevates most horns to some lofty status, if it qualifies as a fine jazz horn. You know - 'plays dark and smoky' - that kind of description. From time-to-time, we address the issue of which horns qualify as 'poor man's Committees'. Or 'pretenders to the Throne'. I have several Committees. I use them for applications other than strickly jazz.
Apparently, I carry some 'creedence' around here (this Forum). OK - I've 'paid my dues'. I've had the fine and rare privelege to have owned most horns we all discuss here. I examine each horn and evaluate it.
On many levels, and try to 'qualify it' as to what I believe its strong points are. And mention its short-comings.
OK - enough. Just establishing my bona fides. The Holton Super-Collegiate is one of those rare horns that approximate some of those qualities we find in the Martin Committee. The examples I've played were of very fine build-quality. Not sure exactly when the production 'peaked', as far as quality control. Might have been early-to-mid 1960s (?). Most likely, the earlier (1940s - 1950s) examples were best (?).
I am not an 'expert' on these horns, so don't 'nail me' with serial-numbers, production variations, and such. They strike me as quite a bargain in today's market. Also, I am not sure how well they 'hold up' in the long-run. I suppose they did very well in their intended market (as per their appellation).
Younger players may not always implement proper care and maintenance. Other 'priorities' abound.
Horns like Ambassadors offer great testimony in their legendary ability to 'survive' all sorts of abuse and neglect. I suspect the tolerance built-in with these sort of horns allowed for more 'ballpark' set-ups. I would love to 'blue-print' a Holton Super-Collegiate - do a super valve-alignment, gap regulation, etc. I suppose the 'bottom-line' is really up to the owner / player. Will the horn satisfy its intended requirement?
The Super-Collegiate probably will deliver lotsa satisfaction. Yf fthfl Srvnt, Robt Love animals. Don't eat them.
I miss Genghis Khan. Display posts from previous: - All times are GMT - 8 Hours Page 1 of 1 Jump to: You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
This is a vintage Holton Collegiate cornet. It has been recently serviced and plays well. It has dents, dings, finish wear and tarnish. The valves are smooth and all slides pull. It plays pretty well for an old horn. It includes a Herco mouthpiece and an old torn up case to be used to help protect the horn in shipping. I would replace the case.
Please ask questions and view pictures before bidding. Additional pictures can be sent upon request. Free shipping to the continental 48 states.
Message me for shipping elsewhere. All sales are final via Paypal. Positive feedback is always appreciated. I always do my best to describe my items accurately. Please message me if there is an issue with an item before opening a case or leaving negative feedback. Happy bidding. Up for auction is one used Holton Collegiate cornet.
My son used this as his beginner instrument for the past 2 years. He has moved on to a trumpet.
This has served him well while he was learning. It functions well, the only issue is the third valve can stick over time. A little oil resolves this. All slides move freely.
As this is a well loved horn, there are the usual minor dents and lacquer wear. See the pics for the current condition. The matching mouth pieces is included. Also included is a dense foam, fabric lined case that has been modified to fit the cornet, it is not the original case. Just let me know if there are any questions.